Hurrah! And the transcript is now UP! (Sorry – took a while today, with everything going wrong.)
TOPIC: Characterisation in picture books. How do you make rounded characters in so few words? As always great chatter – both on topic and off.
See you next week!
| 1:50 am | KatApel: | I’m heading over to tweetchat ready for #pblitchat – moments away. All my tweets will be about PBs now… |
| 1:52 am | KatApel: | pumpkin soup is now mmmmm… gone… and I’m ready! Hello everyone. Good to see so many of you here. @TaraLazar has a new pic.  #pblitchat |
| 1:52 am | PennyWhitehouse: | Hi Everyone . Eight Mins early! #pblitchat |
| 1:53 am | KatApel: | Hi Becky. Great you could make it. Hope it helps your pb – and treading water. #pblitchat |
| 1:54 am | KatApel: | @PennyWhitehouse Thought I’d come early too – and chatter now, instead of when it starts. #pblitchat |
| 1:54 am | KarenCollum: | I’m here! *wipes sweat off brow from racing toddler twins to playgroup & back* Deep breath. Hi everyone Welcome! #pblitchat |
| 1:54 am | TaraLazar: | @KatApel Wish you could send some of that pumpkin soup over here. #pblitchat |
| 1:55 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @KatApel The hour goes very fast #pblitchat |
| 1:55 am | AnneGBrown: | Hi for a bit; at daughter’s dance class #pblitchat |
| 1:55 am | Becky_Levine: | @KatApel Thanks! I’m loving the process, but boy is it different. I am struggling with characterization,too, so… #pblitchat |
| 1:55 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar Youngest made it – delicious! He’s a clever cook. #pblitchat |
| 1:56 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @KarenCollum Hi Karen. I know how you feel. I am lucky my little toddler has a sleep from 11-1.20pm – perfect for #pblitchat #pblitchat |
| 1:56 am | KarenCollum: | How has your collective week been on the writing front? I got 2 rejections on the same PB but they both said it was ‘charming’! #pblitchat |
| 1:56 am | MichelleDEvans: | hi – just getting kids set up… hoping they can play happily for an hour #pblitchat |
| 1:56 am | KarenCollum: | @PennyWhitehouse Mine have just gone down for a sleep too. Very shortly it should all be quiet…I hope! #pblitchat |
| 1:57 am | KarenCollum: | @KatApel Send some pumpkin soup my way while you’re at it, please! #pblitchat |
| 1:57 am | KatApel: | I’m laughing at what our American friends must think of our spelling. ‘Characterisation’ is not an error in Oz. Just so you know. #pblitchat |
| 1:57 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum I am finally alone today – writing day, yay! In the emantime I sent out four subs yesterday. #pblitchat |
| 1:57 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @KarenCollum Wow that is great feedback… meaning you have a good chance with another publisher #pblitchat |
| 1:57 am | KarenCollum: | @MichelleDEvans I hope they play for the hour too #pblitchat |
| 1:57 am | TaraLazar: | @KatApel We know you folks spell things diff’rently down under. #pblitchat |
| 1:58 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum @TaraLazar I’ll tell him to take orders next time he cooks it. #pblitchat |
| 1:58 am | sallymurphy: | @sallymurphy that would be ‘meantime’. Must type slower #pblitchat |
| 1:58 am | KarenCollum: | @sallymurphy You are a busy little bee! 4 subs = awesome Glad you’ve got some time to yourself now that holidays are over. #pblitchat |
| 1:58 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar Oh good. Wouldn’t want you to think we were poor spellers. #pblitchat |
| 1:59 am | TaraLazar: | @KarenCollum Very nice rejections, Karen! Agent got reject from new imprint. Not pubbing higher age range PBs, #pblitchat |
| 1:59 am | KarenCollum: | @PennyWhitehouse Thank you! I’ll take ‘charming’ any day. It’s for 0-2 yr olds so small market. Need to target sub. #pblitchat |
| 1:59 am | KatApel: | @sallymurphy Hurrah for four subs out there. Bet that makes you feel good! #pblitchat |
| 1:59 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar So glad you’re writing higher age range PBs. Personal favourites of mine. hope someone snaps it up soon! #pblitchat |
| 1:59 am | katrinagermein: | Just getting a cup of tea and I’ll be right back and ready for #pblitchat |
| 1:59 am | Donna_Earnhardt: | @KarenCollum I got another revision request on a PB that is on an editor’s “maybe” pile. Made me happy to hear from her! #pblitchat |
| 2:00 am | KarenCollum: | I also had my google wave PB critique group last night with @KatApel & @BookChook. They made wonderful suggestions. #pblitchat |
| 2:00 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar What age range are you talking? Interested… #pblitchat |
| 2:00 am | KarenCollum: | @Donna_Earnhardt Congrats! A maybe is only one step away from a ‘yes’!!! Fingers crossed for you #pblitchat |
| 2:00 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @katrinagermein Can you make me one and pass it through the computer? I don’t want to miss anything! #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | TaraLazar: | @KarenCollum Thanks. We did get a positive response back already saying they would be in touch soon. #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | KatApel: | @katrinagermein Any more orders for tea, coffee or pumpkin soup? #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | KatApel: | @Donna_Earnhardt A maybe is a big woohooo moment. Shows you’re moving along there! #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | KatGirl_Studio: | Hey everyone how were your weeks? #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | sallymurphy: | @KatApel coffe please. WHite with one #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | KarenCollum: | And it’s time to start! So PB writers, share your tips. How do you create rounded characters in so few words?? #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | TaraLazar: | @KatApel Editor thought it was geared toward 6-8 yrs, but agent thinks it’s 4-8. #pblitchat |
| 2:01 am | Becky_Levine: | I’m back–just remembered I had to throw some muffins in the oven! Scrolling down to see what I missed. #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum When @KatApel could read the font on the Wave. I’m having issues. Hoping to resolve… SOON! #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | KarenCollum: | @KatGirl_Studio Hi Kat! Welcome Had a good week. Two rejections but both were lovely #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | _boobook_: | Right, 4 yo set up with snack and activity. Ready to chat! #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | TaraLazar: | I think one of the great tools of characterization is reaction to other characters. #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | Becky_Levine: | Creating characters in few words–haven’t quite got there in this book. Starting with LOTS of words, to figure them out. I hope. #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @KarenCollum base them on real world examples #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | KarenCollum: | @Becky_Levine Muffins, coffee, pumpkin soup – what people miss out on when they don’t come to #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar You get that – different thoughts on age. But not ‘old’. #pblitchat |
| 2:02 am | katrinagermein: | @PennyWhitehouse No but I can tell you how good mine is! Mmm. #pblitchat |
| 2:03 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar Relationships then become central tool for characterisation? #pblitchat |
| 2:03 am | chloe_kitten: | Hi everyone. Glad to be a part of this #pblitchat this week. I actually have pumpkin soup for lunch today. Happy to share #pblitchat |
| 2:03 am | DeborahFreedman: | I use pictures! Much easier than words… #pblitchat |
| 2:03 am | KarenCollum: | RT @KatGirl_Studio: @KarenCollum base them on real world examples<< Real people? Or made-up people in real circumstances? #pblitchat |
| 2:03 am | sallymurphy: | I think you have to focus on which bits of that character are essential for the conflict in question … #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | KarenCollum: | RT @DeborahFreedman: I use pictures! Much easier than words…<<Ha! Spoken like a true illustrator #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | KatApel: | After our wave session last night, I’m very aware of sense and how they add to characterisation. smell sound… #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | sallymurphy: | ..while still giving enough ‘extras’ to avoid being the person just a problem #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | TaraLazar: | But I love how illustrations can tell more about characters than words. LeYuen Pham did a PB about sisters, great body language #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | KarenCollum: | @chloe_kitten Welcome! (Enjoy your soup) #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | katrinagermein: | Dialogue is good because it adds action as well as reveals personality. #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | KatApel: | @chloe_kitten Did my son make yours too? (Pumpkins soup – chattering…) #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | Becky_Levine: | I use dialog beats in older/longer words to help layer in characterization. Trying to play with SHORTER dialog beats for PB. #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @KarenCollum real people and animals. #pblitchat |
| 2:04 am | helainebecker: | FB RT: Tara Lazar is hosting #pblitchat with Karen Collum and Kat Apel at 10pm via Twitter. Picture book writers, come on down! #kidlit |
| 2:05 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar Yes – illustrations was a big on on my list, too. #pblitchat |
| 2:05 am | KarenCollum: | Wow! So far we have dialogue, reaction to other char, selective highlighting of traits, based on real people. Any other tips? #pblitchat |
| 2:05 am | DeborahFreedman: | @katrinagermein Yes, dialogue is a great way to show personality. #pblitchat |
| 2:05 am | Becky_Levine: | Oops “older/longer WORKS” RT @Becky_Levine: I use dialog beats in older/longer words to help layer in characterization. #pblitchat |
| 2:05 am | KatApel: | @KatApel That was supposted to be senses! #pblitchat |
| 2:05 am | chloe_kitten: | @KarenCollum Thanks! @KatApel I made this one. I have the burns on my hand to prove it. Haha. #pumpkinsoup #pblitchat |
| 2:05 am | KarenCollum: | What is the trick to using enough words to bring out character but not stepping on illustrator’s realm? #pblitchat |
| 2:06 am | TaraLazar: | I love how Arthur Howard illustrated BUBBA & BEAU by Kathi Appelt. The characters had big personalities…and big cowboy hats. #pblitchat |
| 2:06 am | trkravtin: | RT @TaraLazar: I love how Arthur Howard illustrated BUBBA & BEAU by Kathi Appelt. The characters had big personalities…and big cowboy hats. #pblitchat |
| 2:06 am | Becky_Levine: | @KarenCollum I think stay with specificity, but maybe for fewer details? #pblitchat |
| 2:06 am | KatApel: | @katrinagermein Yep – that was my third. Okay – so I’m done now. My three big things mentioned. Senses, dialogue, illustrations. #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | KarenCollum: | I think like any good book, the character needs to be ‘real’ in your own mind even though you will only show small portion in PB #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum when figuring out if it’s my job or ollustrators I ask: is it necessary for understanding the text. #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | chloe_kitten: | I think it is about trying to say what you have to in the simplest way possible. No time to get caught up in flowery language. #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | TaraLazar: | How a character says something is important. A distinct voice is great. Like the opening line from HOW I BECAME A PIRATE #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | KatApel: | (Sure I’ll be reminded of more as I chat…) #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | Belindastweets: | Hi Everyone. #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | sallymurphy: | Soemtimes a detail is necessary at the writing stage which later becomes unnecessary because the illos show it. #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | KarenCollum: | @Becky_Levine Intentional selection of specifics then? Like @TaraLazar‘s example of big hats = big personalities? #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | Becky_Levine: | Anyone got an example of senses showing character? A book/books I could take a look at? #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | sallymurphy: | too many typos!! Aaaaaaagh. So sorry #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum definitely! And it’s got to be consistent, too. Helpful to tag it to someond you know (in your mind). #pblitchat |
| 2:07 am | KarenCollum: | @Belindastweets Hi! Welcome. Our topic is how to create real/rounded characters is so few words. #pblitchat |
| 2:08 am | MichelleDEvans: | @Belindastweets hello! #pblitchat |
| 2:08 am | Becky_Levine: | @KarenCollum I think so. Jim Averbeck’s In a Blue Room does that beautifully, I think. #pblitchat |
| 2:08 am | KarenCollum: | @sallymurphy It’s OK – your fingers just can’t keep up with your brain today!! #pblitchat |
| 2:08 am | jafhedlund: | Sorry I’m late tonight. What’s the topic? #pblitchat |
| 2:08 am | TaraLazar: | Of course, cliches are a no-no! If your character speaks like everyone else, they’re boring and not believable. #pblitchat |
| 2:08 am | dorothiar: | Hello everyone. Trying to get caught up on the tweets. #pblitchat |
| 2:08 am | KarenCollum: | @jafhedlund Welcome How to create rounded/real characters in such few words. Jump on in! #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | TaraLazar: | @jafhedlund Characterization. How to create rounded characters with few words. #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | KatApel: | @Becky_Levine Yeah – @KarenCollum‘s writing it. Ummm… thinking thinking but none to mind… #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum lol. Oh. I’m supposed to use my brain. Am switching to firefox so it points out my typos before I post #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | KatGirl_Studio: | the character(s) must have a desire, obstacle and flaws that are believable. #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | PennyWhitehouse: | is taking it all in. #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | Becky_Levine: | @KatApel #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | MichelleDEvans: | @KarenCollum wow so many good ideas – maybe I don’t think enough about it! #pblitchat |
| 2:09 am | KatApel: | ‘Too Loud Lily’ brings in the noise factor – and the big too. #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | TaraLazar: | @KatGirl_Studio Yes, exactly. Characters must have flaws but still be lovable. #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar Do you mean word choice alone or sentence structure as well? #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | jafhedlund: | @KarenCollum – ooh good one! Character is difficult in pb’s #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | Becky_Levine: | @KatGirl_Studio I’m really struggling with the obstacles in mine. I can come up w/ them, but they’re taking up SO many words. #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | MichelleDEvans: | @PennyWhitehouse so much to take in! #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | katrinagermein: | @KatGirl_Studio Yeas and it needs to be clear what the character’s motivation is. #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | KarenCollum: | @KatGirl_Studio I agree with believable but what I love about picture books is that you can cross over into impossible too! #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | sallymurphy: | That’s perfect! RT @KatGirl_Studio: the character(s) must have a desire, obstacle and flaws that are believable. #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | Becky_Levine: | @KatApel I’ll take a look at Too Loud Lily. Thanks! #pblitchat |
| 2:10 am | KarenCollum: | @MichelleDEvans This is a topic I’m really fascinated with because I know I need to improve my characterisation… #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | SquiggleMum: | I’m joining in with #pblitchat for the next little while so feel free to ignore my tweets if you’re not into picture books! |
| 2:11 am | TaraLazar: | I found a list of picture books with good characterization, although it’s a few years old: http://bit.ly/c9pzC6 #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | jafhedlund: | RT @KatGirl_Studio I agree with believable but what I love about picture books is that you can cross over into impossible too! #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar But cliches can also be effective – if used in new situations/ways. To make you stop and think. #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | katrinagermein: | Oops. Meant ‘yes’ not ‘yeas’. Sorry. #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | Donna_Earnhardt: | @KarenCollum @KatApel – thanks! I’ve done several revisions for her, but I’ve enjoyed the process. She’s a great editor! #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | MichelleDEvans: | @SquiggleMum welcome squigs #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum Yes, but believable doesn’t have to be real-world. To me it’s believable in that particular reality. #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | KarenCollum: | @SquiggleMum Welcome, Cath. We’re talking about creating believable characters in so few words… #pblitchat |
| 2:11 am | jafhedlund: | I don’t know if it was mentioned already, but Jane O’Connor did a great job with minimal words for character in Fancy Nancy #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @Becky_Levine in my queztal story the obstacles the character faces are mostly physical so they are shown visually. #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | dosankodebbie: | I’m here and I’m listening. For a while I couldn’t get my comments to register. Sorry #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | KarenCollum: | So we’ve got a great list of what we should be doing. How about we look at what to avoid? #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | TaraLazar: | I love the impossible believability of Phineas and Ferb, although that’s a cartoon! #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | Becky_Levine: | I’m curious–anyone else working on their 1st PB? #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | jafhedlund: | I think believable just means kids can really relate to the character – not that they are “realistic” in our sense of the word #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | _boobook_: | @sallymurphy just don’t try typing ranunculus! #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | KatApel: | @jafhedlund Yes. And there’s that total belief that it’s… believable. I guess that’s because it’s written/illustrated so well. #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | Becky_Levine: | @jafhedlund And believable in the world/story, with the characters, that we’re creating. #pblitchat |
| 2:12 am | SquiggleMum: | I think getting a character’s voice right is important, even if they only say a few words. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | KarenCollum: | @KatGirl_Studio How would you represent emotional obstacles? Metaphors in the environment, perhaps? #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum What to avoid. Lengthy descriptions. Saccharine sweet characters #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | TaraLazar: | @KarenCollum What to avoid? “Hi, my name is Suzy and I’m six years old.” #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | Becky_Levine: | @KarenCollum Avoid–telling. Too much description. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | _boobook_: | @KarenCollum Things to avoid: Children that talk like adults, not children. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | KatApel: | RT @jafhedlund: believable just means kids can relate to the character – not that they are “realistic” in our sense of the word #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | MichelleDEvans: | @Becky_Levine I’m still to be published! have submitted a couple but am still working on the first I wrote as well! #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @KarenCollum i meant believability as in you have to believe the character wants those things #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | sallymurphy: | @_boobook_ lol #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | Belindastweets: | @Becky_Levine working on my second. Not published. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar ‘Impossible believability’! Love that phrase #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @Becky_Levine I am – I have a few in the mix but my first is still under construction. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @KarenCollum not that they are against physicals or outside this world. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | katrinagermein: | Avoid lengthy descriptions of what your characters looks like. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | chloe_kitten: | There are many great writers (like Truman Capote) who have amazing economy of words in their still very effective descriptions. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | SuzDC: | anyone feel you have to trade words for relying more heavily on your illustrations (ie Fancy Nancy)? #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | Becky_Levine: | Avoid: Dull, oh-they’re-just-here-to-be-bad-guys parents. #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | MichelleDEvans: | RT @TaraLazar: @KarenCollum What to avoid? “Hi, my name is Suzy and Im six years old.” #pblitchat |
| 2:13 am | SquiggleMum: | Avoid predictable stereotypes. #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | TaraLazar: | What to avoid? I recall one PB at a conf that described twins using numbers for height and weight. Everyone was confused. TMI! #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | KatApel: | Don’t do the illustrator’s job. Let the pictures add to the characterisation. Don’t tell what they can show. #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | TaraLazar: | The editor instead suggested saying one child was “one lollipop taller” than the other. Saved about 50 words. LOL! #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | Becky_Levine: | @Belindastweets Congrats on getting that 1st one done. I’m trying to be patient w/ myself, keep going on the learning curve. #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | DeborahFreedman: | @sallymurphy Yes. Books have to follow their own interior logic. #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | KarenCollum: | It seems we all know what we DON’T like That’s fantastic! What a list! #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | SquiggleMum: | @katrinagermein Agree on that Katrina. No need for lengthy descriptions of looks in a pb #pblitchat |
| 2:14 am | katrinagermein: | Nice one @TaraLazar ! Suzy example hilarious. #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | jafhedlund: | Except for “I am Eloise. I am six.” lol @KarenCollum What to avoid? “Hi, my name is Suzy and Im six years old.” #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar “One lollipop taller” – what a gorgeous suggestion. #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | dosankodebbie: | @Becky_Levine My translations of pbs have been published, but not my original pbs so far. Hope to get tips from #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | sallymurphy: | @DeborahFreedman absolutely. I always believed it was possible for Horton to sit on that egg. #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | Becky_Levine: | @PennyWhitehouse Just got an idea for the 2nd, but want to get the 1st further along before I dig in. #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | chloe_kitten: | Show don’t tell. No need for long winded explanations of the obvious or of things that action can uncover. #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar That’s so cute! #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | Belindastweets: | @Becky_Levine totally. I have so much to learn, I feel like a real novice here! It’s all good. #pblitchat |
| 2:15 am | Becky_Levine: | @MichelleDEvans Good luck with the submissions! #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | boylebob: | A great thing about a PB is that you can use the illo to show character without or to expand on the text. Character via actions. #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | TaraLazar: | @jafhedlund LOL! Yeah, it’ #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | KarenCollum: | @jafhedlund LOL There are always exceptions! I have not yet mastered enough of the skills to start messing with the rules #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | KatApel: | @chloe_kitten And sometimes just no need for explanations full stop. Let them interpret their own way. #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | KatGirl_Studio: | unless the age is important to the story (ie birthday) it should be shown visually not just stated IMO #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | MichelleDEvans: | @Becky_Levine thank you #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | TaraLazar: | @jafhedlund Yeah, it’s been done before and done well! LOL! #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | DeborahFreedman: | @sallymurphy I LOVE Horton! Now THERE’s a fabulous character. #pblitchat |
| 2:16 am | KarenCollum: | @boylebob A lot of these discussions keep coming back to the importance of the author/illustrator relationship – shared vision? #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | chloe_kitten: | @KatApel Absolutely! The best books transcend the page to also exist in the imagination. #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | boylebob: | OLIVIA is a great example of a pure character book where the illustrations really help bring out the character. #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | MichelleDEvans: | @KarenCollum which makes it hard if you don’t meet the illustrator?? #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | SauerTammi: | I think of A.R.F. for my pb characters…active, relatable, flawed…#pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | KatApel: | What about illustrations. How do the develop characterisation? #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | KarenCollum: | I know @sallymurphy has said in the past she doesn’t have a totally crystal-clear picture of her characters… What about you? #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | thesadeianwoman: | hello all in #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | _boobook_: | @KarenCollum I always have a picture of them in my head. #pblitchat |
| 2:17 am | KarenCollum: | RT @SauerTammi: I think of A.R.F. for my pb characters…active, relatable, flawed…#pblitchat<< I love acronyms! #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | TaraLazar: | Has anyone read THE DOG WHO BELONGED TO NO ONE? Lovely watercolor illustrations w/simple descriptions. Dog had crooked ears. #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum It’s a funny relationship because you work together often without meeting and usually without communicating . #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | jafhedlund: | The Eloise example is just to show that every rule can be broken – although it has much to do with the author’s skill #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | MichelleDEvans: | @SauerTammi flawed is good – main characters should never be the bad guy #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | jafhedlund: | My skills are still nascent, so I wouldn’t try to break major rules at this point. #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | _boobook_: | @SauerTammi Yes, flawed is important! Perfect characters are boring! #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | SquiggleMum: | @KarenCollum I’m learning to let go of my characters a little so that an illustrator has room to work. #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | KarenCollum: | @sallymurphy Sorry to pounce on you there! I’ve just heard you say that you have always been surprised to see what char look like #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | katrinagermein: | @KarenCollum Can’t share vision with anyone til finished! Always aware of leaving room for illustrator but write what I feel 1st. #pblitchat |
| 2:18 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @KatApel i think about it as if it were an animation and just pick the ‘frame” that best shows the scene. #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | TaraLazar: | @SauerTammi I like that, Tammi! ARF! But I thought you wrote about chickens, not dogs!  #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar No – but sounds wonderful! #dogbook #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum That’s right. I don’t know what my characters look like. Only how they feel. #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | KatApel: | @_boobook_ I too always have a picture – but need an illustrator to show me what I see. #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | happybluejess: | Like it! RT @SauerTammi: I think of A.R.F. for my pb characters…active, relatable, flawed…#pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | KatApel: | RT @KatGirl_Studio: @KatApel i think about it as if it were an animation and just pick the frame” that best shows the scene. #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | DeborahFreedman: | @KatApel It’s so easy to show emotion, action, etc. with illustrations. As an illustrator, I can use VERY few words. #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | jafhedlund: | I wish I could illustrate too. At least half of characterization in pbs is what the pictures say. #pblitchat |
| 2:19 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum Yes. It is awlays a surprise – but, so far, always a pleasant surprise. I go ‘oh so that’s what he/she looks like” #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | _boobook_: | @jafhedlund There was once a small boy called Wilfrid Gordon McDonald Partridge and what?s more he wasn?t very old, either. #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | Becky_Levine: | @dosankodebbie Congratulations on the translation. I’m here to learn, too! #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | KarenCollum: | I noticed something interesting in my own writing – PB that has been accepted is based on my son = full characterisation. #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | TaraLazar: | In the DOG WHO BELONGED TO NO ONE there was also “a wisp of a girl named Lia.” Very simple but gorgeous language. #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | _boobook_: | @jafhedland Just to say ‘yes, I agree!’ (rules can be broken if done well) #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | Becky_Levine: | @KatGirl_Studio I think maybe I need to make mine more visual. Hmm… #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | happybluejess: | Me too! In my next life? RT @jafhedlund: I wish I could illustrate too. #pblitchat |
| 2:20 am | jafhedlund: | @boobook – lol – Wilfrid Gordon McDonald Partridge – another rule breaker! #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | KarenCollum: | Word choice is such a HUGE factor. Right word can add to characterisation in powerful way. #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | katrinagermein: | I can’t always see what my characters look like visually. I just feel I know them and their personalities. #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | _boobook_: | @jafhedlund Just to say ‘yes, I agree!’ (rules can be broken if done well) [oops, sorry about spelling name incorrectly earlier!] #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | jafhedlund: | RT @katrinagermein: I cant always see what my characters look like visually. I just feel I know them and their personalities. #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | TaraLazar: | When I’m writing a PB, I tend to think of it as a short movie. I see scenes in my head. (Wish I could illustrate them!) #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | MichelleDEvans: | love to be able to illustrate! RT @happybluejess: Me too! In my next life? RT @jafhedlund: I wish I could illustrate too. #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | happybluejess: | Several of mine are very reliant on illos. #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | KatApel: | @DeborahFreedman Can see definite advantages in author/illustrator. Used to be a great frustration that I wasn’t – but ok now… #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | SauerTammi: | Flawed is also good b/c nobody wants to read about a perfect character. That’s boring. #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | Becky_Levine: | @TaraLazar One lollipop taller-beautiful. #pblitchat |
| 2:21 am | chloe_kitten: | Completely agree! RT @KarenCollum Word choice is such a HUGE factor. Right word can add to characterisation in powerful way. #pblitchat |
| 2:22 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar I see scenes too. My job is to describe them in such a way I bring reader into the room with me. #pblitchat |
| 2:22 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @TaraLazar I see all my illustration that way, as little videos in my head #pblitchat |
| 2:22 am | _boobook_: | @sallymurphy I think that’s great. Makes it easier to let go for the illustrator? #pblitchat |
| 2:22 am | KatApel: | @jafhedlund Yes – sometimes it’s more the situations they’ll be in – what you want portrayed on the page – not the finer details. #pblitchat |
| 2:22 am | jafhedlund: | @DeborahFreedman – what enabled you to get past frustration of not being an illustrator? #pblitchat |
| 2:22 am | KarenCollum: | @KatGirl_Studio Difference is you can actually create the videos in your head! Sadly, I can’t  *sob sob* #pblitchat |
| 2:22 am | DeborahFreedman: | @SauerTammi Flawed characters can be very endearing. #pblitchat |
| 2:23 am | TaraLazar: | @Becky_Levine It was a great suggestion, something kids could visualize immediately instead of 4 inches taller, 6 pounds heavier #pblitchat |
| 2:23 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum Sometimes I spend ages tweaking manuscripts – feel like I’ve done a mammoth work – but only change couple of words. #pblitchat |
| 2:23 am | happybluejess: | Same here. I zoom in and zoom out with my inner camera for scenes. RT @TaraLazar: …I tend to think of it as a short movie. #pblitchat |
| 2:23 am | KatGirl_Studio: | RT @KarenCollum: @TaraLazar I see scenes too. My job is to describe them in such a way I bring reader into the room with me. Me 2 #pblitchat |
| 2:23 am | KarenCollum: | @SauerTammi Sometimes kids love disgusting characters that are in many ways completely unlikeable! #pblitchat |
| 2:23 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum But changing those words makes the manuscript so much tighter! Right words… perfect words. #pblitchat |
| 2:24 am | jafhedlund: | Yes! Me too! RT @KatApel: @KarenCollum Sometimes I spend ages tweaking manuscripts – - but only change couple of words. #pblitchat |
| 2:24 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @KarenCollum well that’s true. But i think the other rrason I see them that was is I have spent 20 years in theater #pblitchat |
| 2:24 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum And they love laughing at adults in silly situations. Like Dads. (My boys love laughing at Dads in books. Me too!) #pblitchat |
| 2:24 am | TaraLazar: | @KatApel Hey, changing a dozen words can make or break a picture book! I spend 90% thinking, 10% writing! #pblitchat |
| 2:24 am | chloe_kitten: | So should u ‘sketch’ out the story & let the illustrations fill it in, or provide more detail so story can stand alone? #pblitchat |
| 2:25 am | SquiggleMum: | Spent an hour reworking one sentence the other day. Time well spent though. #pblitchat |
| 2:25 am | jafhedlund: | Sometimes strong characters don’t even have names – like the little boy in Tedd Arnold’s “Parts” … #pblitchat |
| 2:25 am | KarenCollum: | How do you capture a child’s POV without sounding sentimental or talking down to them? #pblitchat |
| 2:25 am | jafhedlund: | … So the author doesn’t even waste words on a name #pblitchat |
| 2:25 am | TaraLazar: | @jafhedlund Or they have great names, like Buzz in Tedd Arnold’s FLY GUY series! #pblitchat |
| 2:25 am | KarenCollum: | @jafhedlund Economy of words is such a skill! #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | jafhedlund: | I was very disappointed recently to pick up the latest Fancy Nancy book to find her name as Nancy M. Clancy. Nancy Clancy? ugh #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | Becky_Levine: | @TaraLazar 90% of time thinking.That’s maybe the hardest thing for me with PB. In MG/YA I think BY putting words on the page. #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | RedStepchild: | RT @KatApel: @KarenCollum And they love laughing at adults in silly situations. Like Dads. #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | happybluejess: | @SquiggleMum I hear ya. It feels so great to get it “right!” #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | KarenCollum: | @SquiggleMum Good for you for having such high standards! #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | TaraLazar: | @KarenCollum By drawing from your own childhood and not your own parenthood! #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | Donna_Earnhardt: | wordless picture books kill me. They can tell a story without any words. Absolutely amazing to me. #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | dorothiar: | RT @TaraLazar: I spend 90% thinking, 10% writing!…. I like that! #pblitchat |
| 2:26 am | KarenCollum: | RT @TaraLazar: @KarenCollum By drawing from your own childhood and not your own parenthood!<< Ha! Good point #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | TaraLazar: | @jafhedlund Ugh. I don’t like Nancy Clancy either. Her last name could have been Gold or something fancy! #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @Donna_Earnhardt i’m currently working on a wordless one at the moment actually #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | DeborahFreedman: | @KarenCollum Voice, voice, voice. #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | jafhedlund: | Love the 90% thinking/10% writing! #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | jimhill: | @KatGirl_Studio I think of the action with stage directions in mind because of theater background too. #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | SquiggleMum: | @happybluejess @KarenCollum Thank you! Anyone outside this group would probably think that was crazy… #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | KarenCollum: | I also listen closely to the way my kids speak and the way they view the world. Through the eyes of a child… #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | KatApel: | Groan… Ovecast day… internet issues…5 mins downtime seems SO LONG when it’s pblitchat! #pblitchat |
| 2:27 am | happybluejess: | @TaraLazar But I love her doll’s name, something like Lavinia Chandelier or something! Makes me laugh. #pblitchat |
| 2:28 am | jafhedlund: | @TaraLazar – yeah, Nancy Clancy is just too precious. Plus no parent would ever choose that name. #pblitchat |
| 2:28 am | TaraLazar: | @Donna_Earnhardt There’s a new wordless one out that just got a starred review from PW. THE CHICKEN THIEF #pblitchat |
| 2:28 am | KarenCollum: | How do you choose your character names? Does the character emerge with a name or do you play with it? #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | jafhedlund: | Not a huge fan of wordless pbs because 1) I don’t illustrate and 2) I don’t know how to read them to my kids. #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | _boobook_: | @jafhedlund Actually, I bet they would. But it doesn’t sound believable in a book! (We have some weird names at our school.) #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | katrinagermein: | @SquiggleMum We all understand about spending hours on one sentence Cath. You’re in good company here. #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @jimhill actually i don’t think of it that was more like watching a play or movie but being in the side instead of just watching #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | Becky_Levine: | My character’s names just come. Wish everything else did. #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | sallymurphy: | @jafhedlund Some parents do. I know a boy with ryming first and last #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum Ohh… Love naming characters (and babies)! Conveys so much about a character. Very good point, @KareCollum. #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | Belindastweets: | @KarenCollum sometimes it’s just there, sometimes I have to change it. #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | TaraLazar: | @jafhedlund Yeah, Nancy alone is a tough sell these days. Popular among the parents, but the kids are all Hannah and Emma! LOL! #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | SquiggleMum: | @KarenCollum Play with names. Always play for me. #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | _boobook_: | @KarenCollum I really envy authors picking perfect names. Wendy Orr is my hero: Nim, Mokie and Bik. *happy sigh* #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | DeborahFreedman: | @SauerTammi I’ve been thinking of you, because I’m in edits on a book about a really pathetic chicken… #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | peg366: | Hi all. Sorry I’m late. Kids took some time to settle down. #pblitchat |
| 2:29 am | jafhedlund: | @KarenCollum – great question. I start with a name, but then sometimes play with it. “Virginia” becomes “Ginny” for example #pblitchat |
| 2:30 am | peg366: | RT @Belindastweets: @KarenCollum sometimes its just there, sometimes I have to change it. #pblitchat |
| 2:30 am | RedStepchild: | I knew a kid named Rich Poor. RT @sallymurphy: @jafhedlund Some parents do. I know a boy with ryming first and last #pblitchat |
| 2:30 am | SauerTammi: | And the flaw should tie in w/ story…Cowboy Camp….mc didn’t fit in and couldn’t do any of the cowboy stuff right. #pblitchat |
| 2:30 am | jafhedlund: | Some are fixed. I have a story called “Thomas’ Promises,” so his name isn’t going to change – lol #pblitchat |
| 2:30 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @Becky_Levine So do mine. They just have to fit together like a puzzle. #pblitchat |
| 2:30 am | KarenCollum: | Interesting the different approaches regarding names. For me, I can’t write the MS until I ‘know’ the MCs name… #pblitchat |
| 2:31 am | happybluejess: | I love behindthename.com Especially when I want it to have a meaning (even if only I know what it is!) #pblitchat |
| 2:31 am | chloe_kitten: | Need to keep in mind that while childhood looks lovely in retrospect, living it is not always 100% perfect/beautiful/fun. Reality #pblitchat |
| 2:31 am | KarenCollum: | @jafhedlund Thomas’ Promises is very cute #pblitchat |
| 2:31 am | jafhedlund: | I said that about rhyming names and then remembered I dated a guy in college named Dan Mann. But I didn’t marry him – lol! #pblitchat |
| 2:31 am | jimhill: | The difference between the almost right word & the right word is the difference between the lightning bug & the lightning. Twain #pblitchat |
| 2:31 am | _boobook_: | @RedStepchild No?! That’s just bizarre. #pblitchat |
| 2:31 am | KatApel: | Naming Characters… There’s the ‘aural’ appeal, and sometimes the tonguetwister fun, & the trait. Strong, shy… Convey so much! #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | jafhedlund: | Gee, thanks! *blushes* RT @KarenCollum: @jafhedlund Thomas Promises is very cute #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | KarenCollum: | I know it’s not a PB, but I’ve just finished Melina Marchetta’s FINNIKIN OF THE ROCK. What struck me was her gr8 choice of names #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @RedStepchild Hi have a freind with the name John Loo Cann. All Aussie terms for toilet. Nice! #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | justwonderinY: | RT @jimhill: The difference between the almost right word & the right word is the difference between the lightning bug & the lightning. Twain #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum My MCs usually tell me their names. #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | katrinagermein: | I find it hard to change a name later because it can mess with the rhythm. #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | happybluejess: | @jimhill Nice one! #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | jimhill: | @KatGirl_Studio I think of it as Directing, not observing. #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | DeborahFreedman: | @KarenCollum I usually have the name from the very beginning, if I have a name at all. #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | peg366: | RT @PennyWhitehouse: @RedStepchild Hi have a freind with the name John Loo Cann. All Aussie terms for toilet. Nice! Poor guy! #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | TaraLazar: | @Becky_Levine But I may sketch as I think, which helps me figure out how one part of the story connects to another. #pblitchat |
| 2:32 am | KarenCollum: | RT @sallymurphy: @KarenCollum My MCs usually tell me their names. << I think mine do too. It is ‘their’ story. #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | RedStepchild: | OMG! RT @PennyWhitehouse: @RedStepchild Hi have a freind with the name John Loo Cann. All Aussie terms for toilet. Nice! #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | MichelleDEvans: | same here RT @katrinagermein: I find it hard to change a name later because it can mess with the rhythm. #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | _boobook_: | @KarenCollum I find the writing is easier if I know the character’s name. #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | chloe_kitten: | Everyone is so fast in the conversation today, I am feeling like a snail. Haha. #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | jafhedlund: | Or you change it b/c of rhythm! RT @katrinagermein: I find it hard to change a name later because it can mess with the rhythm. #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @jimhill I was never a director but an actor so maybe that’s why i see it that way #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar You can draw too?! That’s just not fair  #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | MissCackle: | @sallymurphy Same. I start writing and the names just come. Sometimes I feel I have no control over it! #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum yes. they also tend to tell me their stories. Sometimes amazing me with what they come up with. #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | MichelleDEvans: | @chloe_kitten hmmm a story could be coming out of that comment… #pblitchat |
| 2:33 am | katrinagermein: | @chloe_kitten Are you using tweetchat? Makes it easier. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | SauerTammi: | w/ my char. names, I try to make them Just Right. Avery felt like a name for a wannabe cowboy. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | _boobook_: | @KarenCollum Also not PB, but JK Rowling very clever with name choices. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | KarenCollum: | I guess I think about the sound of the name, the connotations, alliterative opportunities etc. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | chloe_kitten: | It is really interesting when a MC doesn’t have a name. Sometimes I don’t even notice until it is pointed out. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | jafhedlund: | Check out the book, “The Secret Universe of Names.” Fun, and nice to check if the name you chose matches char’s personality #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | TaraLazar: | @KarenCollum I draw, but not well enough to illustrate my own stories. One day I’ll post some of my drawings. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | SauerTammi: | Bernadette sounded like a name for a monster. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | sallymurphy: | @jafhedlund I wrote a rhyming PB with a character called Robert E Bear and I struggled and sturggled with getting it right… #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | MissCackle: | @katrinagermein What’s tweetchat? #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | KatApel: | If it’s for a rhyming PB, the name can set (or throw) the whole rhythm of the story. So need to know in advance. Nicknames help. #pblitchat |
| 2:34 am | KarenCollum: | @SauerTammi ‘Just Right’ should be the breakfast cereal of all PB writers (do you have it over there?!). #pblitchat |
| 2:35 am | RedStepchild: | Does a name ever come to youB4 the story? I heard a funny name and feel like there’s a story in there somewhere. #pblitchat |
| 2:35 am | Becky_Levine: | @TaraLazar That might help me. Or I might just start laughing at my drawings! #pblitchat |
| 2:35 am | katrinagermein: | @MissCackle Just google it now and you’ll be in in a flash. Then you can just follow this conversation. #pblitchat |
| 2:35 am | sallymurphy: | @jafhedlund … until I realsied his name was not Robert E. It was Pemberthy. Changed the name and it was accepted and published. #pblitchat |
| 2:35 am | KarenCollum: | @RedStepchild Yes – often have a name provoke an image which then breeds a story. #pblitchat |
| 2:35 am | TaraLazar: | With the two PBs on submission now, the titles came to me first. Then I wrote the story to fit the title. #pblitchat |
| 2:35 am | sallymurphy: | @RedStepchild Yes. Often. Or sometimes the title. #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | KarenCollum: | @sallymurphy Awww, so that’s how Pemberthy Bear came to be! #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | KatApel: | @RedStepchild I have had story ideas that have flown from a name/title only. I had the title and had to find/write the story. #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | jimhill: | @happybluejess one of my favorite writing, and Mark Twain, quotes. #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | _boobook_: | @MissCackle: www.tweetchat.com and put publitchat next to the hashtag window. I’m a recent convert! #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | KarenCollum: | Has anyone ever had a PB published where the illustrator drew the MC nothing like they imagined?? #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | Belindastweets: | @TaraLazar You’re lucky. I find titles the hardest. #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | jafhedlund: | @sallymurphy – great story (Robert E. Bear to Pemberthy). Sounds very Aussie. Are you Australian? #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | KarenCollum: | My PB that’s coming out in Sept is based on my oldest son. Illustrator very kindly used a pic of him to inspire her illos #pblitchat |
| 2:36 am | chloe_kitten: | @katrinagermein Haha yes I am! I am just hopelessly behind myself today. #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | Donna_Earnhardt: | If there is a characteristic I am bringing out in my character, I find names that have that meaning. #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | peg366: | I wrote my most recent from a repetitive phrase and the name was in the phrase. #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | KarenCollum: | @Belindastweets Oooh, I’m the title queen! (Just a shame about the rest of the book LOL) #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | _boobook_: | @MissCackle NOOO It’s pblitchat for hashtag window of course, not publitchat (fingers too fast for brain) #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | KatApel: | Ha… Laughing at the number of us who have titles and then write the story to fit the title. Quite common, we are. #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | TaraLazar: | @KarenCollum I love a quote from Carolyn Crimi: illustrator never did what I imagined. They did better than I ever imagined! #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | KarenCollum: | @Donna_Earnhardt I love researching name meanings too! #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | happybluejess: | @KarenCollum Wow! That was thoughtful of her. I guess it helped her, too, though. #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | chloe_kitten: | @MichelleDEvans Haha. Very very true. I am beginning to look at everything as filled with potential and possibility. #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | jafhedlund: | Me=BAD at titles! #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | sallymurphy: | @KatApel Me too. I had a title in myhead for three years before I found the story to go with it. Then after I’d written it… #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @RedStepchild John Loo Cann could envoke a story. I might have to write it in my ideas book. Hope my friend won’t mind! lol #pblitchat |
| 2:37 am | Belindastweets: | @KarenCollum lol #pblitchat |
| 2:38 am | katrinagermein: | @_boobook_ Maybe we can meet in the pub and chat another time! #pblitchat |
| 2:38 am | KarenCollum: | RT @TaraLazar I love a quote from Carolyn Crimi: illustrator never did what I imagined. They did better than I ever imagined!<Yes #pblitchat |
| 2:38 am | KarenCollum: | @Belindastweets I even imagine that title on a hardcover PB on a bookshelf. If it doesn’t ‘look’ right in my head I change it! #pblitchat |
| 2:38 am | sallymurphy: | @KatApel … I changed the title. After it was accepted, the publisher suggested a title page: to the first title. Lol #pblitchat |
| 2:38 am | TaraLazar: | @KatApel A great title is so important, it draws the reader into the story, stirs curiosity. Maybe that’s why I tackle it 1st. #pblitchat |
| 2:38 am | jafhedlund: | I sometimes get titles first – sometimes characters – sometimes the plot/story. Always exciting to see what hits 1st #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | KatApel: | RT @TaraLazar Love a quote from Carolyn Crimi: illustrator never did what I imagined. They did better than I ever imagined!<Nice! #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | _boobook_: | @KatApel I love titles. Sometimes titles are better than the books! #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | SquiggleMum: | Oh ok, ok. I’ve jumped over to tweetchat too… #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | MissCackle: | @_boobook_ @katrinagermein Aha! awesome. thank you! #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | sallymurphy: | @sallymurphy and that would be a ‘title change’. Sigh. #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar Well – it often draws me into the story – when writing it. So it must work. #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | katrinagermein: | @KarenCollum Oh how funny! Do you really imagine the cover before you start writing? Such an optimist. Love it. #pblitchat |
| 2:39 am | katrinagermein: | @MissCackle My pleasure #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | KarenCollum: | So title, name, dialogue, conflict, relationships, illustrations all add to characterisation. Anything else? #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | Belindastweets: | @KarenCollum Thats fantastic and working for you to! #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | SauerTammi: | I wish! RT @KarenCollum: @SauerTammi ‘Just Right’ should be the breakfast cereal of all PB writers (do you have it over there?!). #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | MissCackle: | @_boobook_ I always work really hard on my titles. It’s so important, particularly in kids/YA #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | KatApel: | @sallymurphy Ha. Nice story. Yes – I realised ‘change’. #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | _boobook_: | @katrinagermein I don’t even drink! But now you mention it, I could really go an orange juice … #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | jafhedlund: | I think a great title is what draws the “parent” to the story. For kids, story is more important. Agree/disagree? #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | KarenCollum: | @katrinagermein *blush* Yes! I also imagine my name in lights (Just kidding…kind of!) #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | lovingunme: | @sallymurphy Ha. Nice story. Yes – I realised ‘change’. #pblitchat: @sallymurphy Ha. Nice story. Yes – I realised … http://bit.ly/d7rLNm |
| 2:40 am | TaraLazar: | @Belindastweets I often help writer friends with titles. It’s a process I enjoy, finding just the write words to sum it all up. #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | RedStepchild: | What is that? @KarenCollum: Just Right should be the breakfast cereal of all PB writers (do you have it over there?!). #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | KatApel: | @_boobook_ A title is the ultimate short story. #pblitchat |
| 2:40 am | SquiggleMum: | Sometimes I spy a title and can’t wait to read the book, but then am disappointed :-/ #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | MichelleDEvans: | oh so much!!!!!RT @KarenCollum: So title, name, dialogue, conflict, relationships, illustrations all add to characterisation. #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @jafhedlund I agree, but i am a sucker for certain illustrations. #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | KatApel: | @jafhedlund Oh – a great title goes nowhere without a story to hold the book together. Definitely! #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | MissCackle: | @KarenCollum @katrinagermein *whispers* I imagine the book cover, too  ) #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | chloe_kitten: | Excellent! RT: @KatApel @_boobook_ A title is the ultimate short story #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | KarenCollum: | @RedStepchild ‘Just Right’ is a r cereal over here. Should also be our motto: Keep tweaking until it’s Just Right. #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | SauerTammi: | Ooh. Like that! RT @KatApel: @_boobook_ A title is the ultimate short story. #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | Belindastweets: | @TaraLazar oohhh goodie. Can I send mine to you?? heehee #pblitchat |
| 2:41 am | _boobook_: | @SquiggleMum That happens to me at the library. Then I like title so much I write it down somewhere, so it doesn’t seem wasted! #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | jimhill: | @KarenCollum Setting. “On the moon” changes the characterization sharply from “in Mom’s kitchen”. #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | KatApel: | @TaraLazar Me too. I’d even name their kids, if they let me. (Hint hint @KarenCollum. ) Kidding of course. #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | TaraLazar: | @Belindastweets Actually, I’d love to give it a whirl! #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | SquiggleMum: | @_boobook_ Yep, happens to me at the library too when borrowing with my kids. #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | katrinagermein: | @KarenCollum @MissCackle Confession from me – sometimes I imagine the dedication. #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | KarenCollum: | @jafhedlund Good point re title drawing parents. Think cover illos draw kids in… #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | MissCackle: | So true!!! RT @KatApel: @_boobook_ A title is the ultimate short story. #pblitchat #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | KarenCollum: | RT @jimhill: @KarenCollum Setting. “On the moon” changes the characterization sharply from “in Moms kitchen”. <<Good point! #pblitchat |
| 2:42 am | jafhedlund: | Agreed RT @KarenCollum: @jafhedlund Good point re title drawing parents. Think cover illos draw kids in… #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | MissCackle: | @KarenCollum @jafhedlund I think once the kids get older title is really important. #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | _boobook_: | @KatApel Yes! title is ultimate short story … and spiney poem. #dontwasteagoodpbtitleifthebookisadud #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | TaraLazar: | @jimhill Oooh, setting is great. That’s one reason I love THAT RABBIT BELONGS TO EMILY BROWN so much. #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | Belindastweets: | @TaraLazar no worries, will you critique for me to please????? #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | jafhedlund: | I do think title becomes more important to kids after they can read independently. #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | KatApel: | @jimhill Clever! Yes – you’re very right. #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | KarenCollum: | @katrinagermein LOL We should start our own Writer’s Anonymous group: Hi I’m Karen & I imagine titles of books b4 they’re written #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | happybluejess: | @katrinagermein I’ve been telling my kids their names will be in my dedication. So I better get them there! #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | MissCackle: | Oh golly! Me too! Is this wrong? @katrinagermein @KarenCollum Confession from me – sometimes I imagine the dedication. #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | KarenCollum: | @MissCackle Yes – wish there were more older PBs for 8-12 year olds… #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | RedStepchild: | Is Goldilocks on the box? RT @KarenCollum Just Right is cereal over here. Should be our motto: Keep tweaking until its Just Rgt. #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | katrinagermein: | RT Love that. @MissCackle: So true!!! RT @KatApel: @_boobook_ A title is the ultimate short story. #pblitchat #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | _boobook_: | @katrinagermein me too! Do you put the dedication when you submit, or do they check what you want if publishing? #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | KatApel: | @_boobook_ I love the spiney poem. I’m getting back to do more of them!! #pblitchat |
| 2:43 am | Becky_Levine: | I’ve got to headout guys, some more critiquing to do tonight. Thanks for the great chat–I’ll be back soon to learn more! #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | jafhedlund: | Rats! Kids are fussy and hubby wants help with bedtime. Got to go, but will read transcript later. Thanks and goodnight all! #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | MissCackle: | @KarenCollum @katrinagermein Hi, I’m Kate and I have NO CONTROL OVER MY CHARACTERS! #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | justwonderinY: | @jafhedlund Young children are also very drawn to characters. They love books in which characters reappear in other stories. #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | KarenCollum: | @RedStepchild LOL re Just Right #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | katrinagermein: | @happybluejess I’m the terrible mum that dedicated my last book to two of my three children! Pressure on for next contract fast! #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | peg366: | Bye Becky. #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum lol. hi: I’m Sally and I imagine the royalty cheques before the story is written #writersanonymous #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | MichelleDEvans: | @jafhedlund bye #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | _boobook_: | @KatApel oh, let’s do it! Something rhyming would be good … #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | KarenCollum: | @_boobook_ I missed out on dedication page on 2 PBs because it already went to printer #pblitchat |
| 2:44 am | SquiggleMum: | RT @_boobook_ @katrinagermein Do you put the dedication when you submit, or do they check what you want if publishing? <– Good Q #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | MichelleDEvans: | @jafhedlund bye! #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | katrinagermein: | @_boobook_ No I don’t mention dedication to publisher till we’re at the edit stage. #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | peg366: | RT @sallymurphy: @KarenCollum lol. hi: Im Sally and I imagine the royalty cheques before the story is written #writersanonymous. #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | sallymurphy: | @katrinagermein oh. I’m the terrible daughter who dedicated a book to her inlaws before her own parents! #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | TaraLazar: | @katrinagermein Hilarious! I have two out on sub and two daughters. Hope both are bought! #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | jimhill: | I jot down character names and titles too. Dodge Crandell has yet to find his story, but I know it’s out there. #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | KarenCollum: | @Becky_Levine @jafhedlund Thanks for joining us! #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | happybluejess: | @katrinagermein That’s hilarious! I’ve thought about that, too. Then I’d have to publish a second one for sure. #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | MichelleDEvans: | HILLARIOUS! Just Right cereal weaving its way through the #pblitchat |
| 2:45 am | katrinagermein: | @sallymurphy We all need to dream for motivation! #pblitchat |
| 2:46 am | _boobook_: | @KatApel I know, I first learnt about them on your blog. #pblitchat |
| 2:46 am | MissCackle: | @sallymurphy I think I’m too new at all of this to even imagine that! I’m just imagining what my story will look like in a book! #pblitchat |
| 2:46 am | happybluejess: | @KarenCollum I will email my editor right now! Yikes! #pblitchat |
| 2:46 am | katrinagermein: | @sallymurphy lol in laws first! #pblitchat |
| 2:46 am | jimhill: | @TaraLazar You have an encyclopedic knowledge of kidlit books. Wow! #pblitchat |
| 2:46 am | TaraLazar: | @katrinagermein I meant both books, not both daughters. They’re not for sale! LOL! #pblitchat |
| 2:46 am | KarenCollum: | @happybluejess It was a small pub. Didn’t happen with my trade pub. *phew* #pblitchat |
| 2:47 am | katrinagermein: | @TaraLazar Glad to hear! #pblitchat |
| 2:47 am | TaraLazar: | I heard one editor said she thought it was presumptuous to include a dedication with a submission. #pblitchat |
| 2:47 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar I know someone who recently said they’d sell their firstborn to co-write a book with Mem Fox. #pblitchat |
| 2:47 am | _boobook_: | @SallyMurphy Now I know your secret. I need to imagine more cheques! #pblitchat |
| 2:47 am | happybluejess: | @KarenCollum Thanks for the heads-up, though. #pblitchat |
| 2:47 am | KarenCollum: | @TaraLazar I always felt a bit silly including a dedication on submission… #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | PennyWhitehouse: | I am going to the book launch on Thursday for Kerry Brown- Can i Cuddle the Moon. I love her title. The book is awesome also. #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | sallymurphy: | @TaraLazar Yes. And not every book has room for a dedication, unfortunately. #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | TaraLazar: | @KarenCollum Sounds like a good deal to me. #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | chloe_kitten: | @KarenCollum That would make for a very interesting dedication. #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | katrinagermein: | Next #pblitchat should definitely be confession session. So funny! #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | KatApel: | @KarenCollum Oh no! The missing dedication. That’s tragic! Oh – better temper/tone it down… That’s sad. #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | happybluejess: | @KarenCollum I didn’t even think to do that! #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | KarenCollum: | How about we finish off with favourite characters? list away! #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | TaraLazar: | @sallymurphy I used to engrave wedding bands. You wouldn’t believe what people thought there was room for! #pblitchat |
| 2:48 am | sallymurphy: | @_boobook_ lol. Was only joking really – I’ve seen the size of most royalty cheques and they’re not worth dreaming about. #pblitchat |
| 2:49 am | KarenCollum: | @KatApel LOL It was for the UK books. I was sad but resigned to the reality #pblitchat |
| 2:49 am | happybluejess: | Love Lilly (with the Purple Plastic Purse). #pblitchat |
| 2:49 am | KarenCollum: | I love the pirate in CAPTAIN CRABCLAW’S CREW by Frances Watts & David Legge. He was such a softie #pblitchat |
| 2:50 am | sallymurphy: | @TaraLazar Too funny. this ring is dedicated to m- #pblitchat |
| 2:50 am | sandyfussell: | I leave the dedication to last. Sometimes the book chooses its own. #pblitchat |
| 2:50 am | happybluejess: | Love Ferdinand. #pblitchat |
| 2:50 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum Hairy Maclary and Schnitzel Von Crumm and Zackary Quack #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | KarenCollum: | I have a crying baby…back in a sec. Keep listing your favourite characters! #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | MissCackle: | @sandyfussell My first dedication will thank everybody, just in case I don’t get another chance! #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | Belindastweets: | How about Pippi Longstocking. Anyone remember?? #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | TaraLazar: | @sallymurphy Exactly… #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | TaraLazar: | #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | sallymurphy: | @happybluejess Oooh – which Ferdinand? #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | MissCackle: | @KarenCollum I’ve lost the plot. Is this “favourite characters”? #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | katrinagermein: | ‘Mr McGee’ has been a big favourite in our house. I love ‘Koala Lou’. (Ending makes me cry every time.) #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | RedStepchild: | Loved her! RT @Belindastweets: How about Pippi Longstocking. Anyone remember?? #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | chloe_kitten: | @Belindastweets I loved Pippi Longstocking! #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | happybluejess: | And Madame Bodot (from CRICTOR THE BOA CONSTRICTOR). #pblitchat |
| 2:51 am | KatApel: | Oh no oh no oh no… Another drop out. What is with this internet?!?!? #pblitchat |
| 2:52 am | sallymurphy: | @MissCackle Yes – just finsihing off with fav characters #pblitchat |
| 2:52 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @RedStepchild I adore Pippylongstocking…. takes me back! #pblitchat |
| 2:52 am | happybluejess: | @sallymurphy Ferdinand the bull who loved to smell the flowers in the ladies’ hair. #pblitchat |
| 2:52 am | MichelleDEvans: | @katrinagermein Yes I love Koala Lou too #pblitchat |
| 2:52 am | KatGirl_Studio: | I’ve got to do some work so i’m off tweeples see you next week! #pblitchat |
| 2:52 am | _boobook_: | Bella from Dogger (the big sister) #pblitchat |
| 2:53 am | sallymurphy: | @happybluejess Don’t know that one. I have a Ferdinand too. #pblitchat |
| 2:53 am | MissCackle: | @sallymurphy Ah! Alexander in Alexander and the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day! And Peter Rabbit. And “The Great One” #pblitchat |
| 2:53 am | KarenCollum: | @MissCackle Yes! any characters that have been beautifully created… #pblitchat |
| 2:53 am | sandyfussell: | Soft spot for Duck in Duck, Death and the Tulip. #pblitchat |
| 2:53 am | katrinagermein: | I also love Matin Waddell’s ‘Little Bear’. #pblitchat |
| 2:53 am | KarenCollum: | @KatGirl_Studio Bye! Have a great week #pblitchat |
| 2:53 am | KatApel: | Hmmm… I do love that Duck in a Truck – but alas, his other books are never as funny. Just don’t nail the silliness of situation #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | happybluejess: | Love Gerald and Piggie from Mo Willems’ easy readers. #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | SquiggleMum: | That’s it for me for now pb lovers. Thanks for helping me grow as a writer. Tweet you next week. #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | dorothiar: | Arnold Lobel’s “Frog and Toad.” I still love those books. #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | TaraLazar: | Favorite charaters? Bubba & Beau (and family), Emily Brown, Spoon, Little Pea…got to think of more… #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | KarenCollum: | @MissCackle Yes – love Alexander #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | KatApel: | ‘The Lion who wanted to Love’ – got to love the beautiful character in that. #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | sallymurphy: | @happybluejess Yes. And Mo’s pigeon, too. #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | MissCackle: | @happybluejess AND THE PIGEON!!! #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | katrinagermein: | I need to come prepared with list of fave books next time. Can’t think on the spot. I’m off now too. Catch you next time at #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | KarenCollum: | @SquiggleMum Happy writing #pblitchat |
| 2:54 am | KatApel: | @SquiggleMum Glad you could join us – and @KatGirl_Studio. See you! #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | chloe_kitten: | So many lovely characters. I’m signing off early. See you all next week. Love these chats!! Thanks @KarenCollum and @KatApel! #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | _boobook_: | The boy from ‘Shutting the Chooks In’. #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | sallymurphy: | @MissCackle snap! #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | RedStepchild: | I love Skippy Jon Jones, the cat who thinks he’s a chihuahua! #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | KarenCollum: | @katrinagermein Thanks for joining us! Enjoy your quiet house #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | happybluejess: | And Little Nut Brown Hare and Big Nut Brown Hare from GUESS HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU. #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | KatApel: | I loved the names of ‘Chimp’ and ‘Zee’. But I loved the names more than the books. #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @katrinagermein Have a great week #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | KarenCollum: | @chloe_kitten See you next week! Thanks for contributing. #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | happybluejess: | @MissCackle Yes, the pigeon!!! #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | MissCackle: | @KarenCollum Did you know in the NZ version he moves to Timbuktu? #pblitchat |
| 2:55 am | TaraLazar: | Oh gosh! How could I forget? Arnie the Doughnut from Laurie Keller’s book! LOVE ARNIE! He becomes a doughnut dog! #pblitchat |
| 2:56 am | KatApel: | @chloe_kitten See you! And @katrinagermein. Catch you… during the week! #pblitchat |
| 2:56 am | KarenCollum: | I’m going to take more careful notice of characterisation from now on… #pblitchat |
| 2:56 am | KarenCollum: | @MissCackle Really? No, I didn’t know that! #pblitchat |
| 2:56 am | happybluejess: | And that spunky PAPER BAG PRINCESS. #pblitchat |
| 2:57 am | KarenCollum: | Subbed a PB recently and got feedback from pub that characterisation was an issue. You have given me ammunition for change now! #pblitchat |
| 2:57 am | _boobook_: | The Pocket Dogs, and Mr Pockets #pblitchat |
| 2:57 am | KarenCollum: | I’m going to have to bow out a few minutes early – both twins are crying now Think the rain just woke them… Thanks everyone! #pblitchat |
| 2:57 am | MissCackle: | @KarenCollum My Husband Bear is a Kiwi ) #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | Belindastweets: | @KarenCollum Great that they’ve give you feedback. #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | KarenCollum: | Transcript will be up in about 15 minutes #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | peg366: | I’m headed to the Iowa Scbwi conf this weekend and have lots to do before I go, so am headed to bed earlier than normal. Nite . #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | _boobook_: | Bye everyone, thanks for a great chat. #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | MissCackle: | Must get back to work now! Need to sell all your books, clever writer peeps. Thanks for having me! #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | TaraLazar: | I’m going to wrap it up now, too! Time for a little reading and bed. Thanks everyone! #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | sallymurphy: | @KarenCollum Thanks for the chat. Am off to write now. #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | Belindastweets: | @KarenCollum bye, have a good week. #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | sallymurphy: | Thanks all. See you next week. #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | happybluejess: | @KarenCollum Thanks again! Good night! #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | MichelleDEvans: | @KarenCollum more careful?? – I might actually think about characterisation now lol #pblitchat |
| 2:58 am | PennyWhitehouse: | @KarenCollum Bye Karen. Good luck on the characterisation front. I will be working through mine also. #pblitchat |
| 2:59 am | jimhill: | Night all, great first pb chat for me. Cheers! #pblitchat |
| 2:59 am | RedStepchild: | Goodnight everyone -great chat! #pblitchat |
| 2:59 am | pblitchat: | Will hopefully be putting up a page on the blog for #pblitchat people to list themselves if taking part in #NaPiBoWriWeek – so look for it. |
| 2:59 am | dorothiar: | Goodnight all. Thanks for all the great conversation. Lots to think about. #pblitchat |
| 3:00 am | Belindastweets: | Have a good week. #pblitchat |
| 3:00 am | KatApel: | See you all. Great chatting – all be it with internet interruptions. #pblitchat |
| 3:00 am | MichelleDEvans: | what’s our topic next week? #pblitchat |
| 3:01 am | sandyfussell: | Bye all. I will turn up earlier then the last ten minutes next week #pblitchat |
| 3:01 am | Belindastweets: | @KatApel bye Kat. Are you coming to Writefest? If so, it will be nice to meet you. #pblitchat |
| 3:02 am | KarenCollum: | @MichelleDEvans Re topic for next week – I think it’s up on the blog… #pblitchat |
| 3:02 am | pblitchat: | April 26/27 TOPIC Illustrators: What makes a manuscript stand out for you? How do you choose what you?ll work with? #pblitchat |
| 3:02 am | TaraLazar: | FYI, next week’s topic asks illustrators: what makes a manuscript stand out for you? How do you choose what you?ll work with? #pblitchat |
| 3:03 am | KatApel: | RT @pblitchat: April26/27 TOPIC Illustrators: What makes a manuscript stand out for you? How do you choose what you?ll work with? #pblitchat |
| 3:05 am | KatApel: | @Belindastweets Oops! Answered this direct through the twitter page. I have too many pages open!! #pblitchat |
| 3:07 am | _boobook_: | RT @pblitchat: April 26/27 TOPIC Illustrators: What makes a manuscript stand out for you? How do you choose what you?ll work with? #pblitchat |
| 3:09 am | Belindastweets: | @KatApel No prob, I’ll go check.. #pblitchat |
| 3:11 am | katrinagermein: | @taralazar @KarenCollum @KatApel Thanking you three for this week’s #pblitchat. So much fun |
| 3:16 am | RascofromRIF: | RT @SauerTammi: Ooh. Like that! RT @KatApel: @_boobook_ A title is the ultimate short story. #pblitchat |
